Operation Fireside, US Coast Guard Photo
Recruits from Coast Guard Training Center Cape May wait to be assigned their family as part of Operation Fireside. Since 1981, Operation Fireside has placed thousands of recruits with South Jersey families duri... More
Operation Fireside, US Coast Guard Photo
A recruit checks his Facebook account during his visit to a host family's house during Operation Fireside. Since 1981, Operation Fireside has placed thousands of recruits with South Jersey families during the h... More
Coast Guard Basic Training NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Recruits from companies S-185 and T-185 await to receive their colors from their Company Commanders as their company flags blow in the foreground. The companies retire their flags and are prese... More
Coast Guard Basic Training NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY; N.J. - Recruits from company S-185 receive their colors from their Company Commanders in their sixth week of training. The companies retire their company flags; which are plain white; and are presente... More
Coast Guard Basic Training NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Seaman Recruit Edward Lovejoy of Recruit screams out his orders to the regiment at Coast Guard Training Center Cape May. The recruits receive their orders to their next duty station in their si... More
Coast Guard Basic Training NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard recruits from company R-185 sound off prior to being advanced as the newest members of the Service. R-185 is the first company to graduate off base in the unit's history (U.S. Coast... More
Coast Guard Basic Training NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard recruits from company R-185 listen intently as Capt. Bill Kelly, commanding officer of Training Center Cape May, reads their advancement orders. R-185's gradation ceremony was the f... More
Coast Guard Basic Training NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - A newly advanced member of the Coast Guard greets family and friends following eight weeks of training and his graduation ceremony. The graduation ceremony for the new Coast Guardsmen was held ... More
Coast Guard's Independent Duty Health Services Technician of the
CAPE MAY, N.J. - U.S. Coast Guard Petty Officer 1st Class John Stewart of Jacksonville, Fla., accepts the award as the Coast Guard's Independent Duty Health Services Technician of the Year in a ceremony aboard ... More
Coast Guard's Independent Duty Health Services Technician of the
CAPE MAY, N.J. - U.S. Coast Guard Petty Officer 1st Class John Steward of Jacksonville, Fla., poses for a photo aboard Cutter Vigorous homeported at Training Center Cape May. Steward will be recognized as the C... More
Independent Duty Health Services Technician of the Year
CAPE MAY, N.J. - U.S. Coast Guard Petty Officer 1st Class John Steward of Jacksonville, Fla., poses for a photo in the Sick Bay aboard Cutter Vigorous homeported at Training Center Cape May. Steward will be rec... More
US COAST GUARD Abandon Ship NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard recruits from Charlie Company 186 conduct abandon ship drills Thursday, Jan. 26, 2012, aboard Training Center Cape May. The drills test the recruits' physical ability, their capacit... More
Guarding the Coast Guard's most prized possession
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Children at the Child Development Center aboard Coast Guard Training Center Cape May take a break from playing on a touch responsive whiteboard to pose for a photo. The majority of the children... More
Child Development Center NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Hunter Brown plays with friends and staff at the Child Development Center aboard Coast Guard Training Center Cape May in the infant class Thursday, Jan. 26, 2012. The majority of the children h... More
Child Development Center NEW JERSEY
003: CAPE MAY, N.J. - Frankie Smith eats lunch with classmates and staff at the Child Development Center aboard Coast Guard Training Center Cape May Thursday, Jan. 26, 2012. The majority of the children have mi... More
Maual of Arms, US Coast Guard Photo
CAPE MAY, N.J. - A Coast Guard recruit from Delta Company 186 conducts manual of arms aboard Training Center Cape May Thursday, Jan. 26, 2012. The recruits learn manual of arms as part of their military basic t... More
Training Center Cape May's EPOY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Petty Officer 2nd Class Fred Chase, 26, of Old Orchard Beach, Maine, accepts the award for Coast Guard Training Center Cape May's Enlisted Person of the Year for 2011. Chase was recognized for ... More
State of the Training Center Address
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Capt. Bill Kelly, commanding officer of Coast Guard Training Center Cape May, delivers the 2011 State of the Training Center Address Tuesday, March 6, 2012, at 9 a.m. The State of the Training ... More
Response Boat - Medium NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - The crew of Coast Guard Station Cape May conducts small boat training tactics aboard the unit's new 45-foot Response Boat - Medium off the coast of Wildwood, March 6, 2012. The RB-M replaces th... More
Response Boat - Small NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - The crew of Coast Guard Station Cape May conducts small boat tactics training aboard the unit's 25-foot Response Boat - Small off the coast of Wildwood, March 6, 2012. With two 225-horsepower o... More
Response Boat - Medium NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - The crew of Coast Guard Station Cape May conducts small boat training tactics aboard the unit's new 45-foot Response Boat - Medium off the coast of Wildwood, March 6, 2012. The RB-M replaces th... More
Response Boat - Small NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - The crew of Coast Guard Station Cape May conducts small boat tactics training aboard the unit's 25-foot Response Boat - Small off the coast of Wildwood, March 6, 2012. With two 225-horsepower o... More
Response Boat - Medium. Warship photograph collection
CAPE MAY, N.J. - The crew of Coast Guard Station Cape May conducts small boat training tactics aboard the unit's new 45-foot Response Boat - Medium off the coast of Wildwood, March 6, 2012. The RB-M replaces th... More
Response Boat - Medium NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - The crew of Coast Guard Station Cape May conducts small boat training tactics aboard the unit's new 45-foot Response Boat - Medium off the coast of Wildwood, March 6, 2012. The RB-M replaces th... More
Month of the Military Child NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY N.J. - Petty Officer 3rd Class Katherine Waters and her daughter, Alicia, watch a display at the Coast Guard Fire Department aboard Training Center Cape May April 26, 2012. The Coast Guard hosted more ... More
Month of the Military Child NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Cory Schock practices self-defense with a member of Coast Guard Station Cape May while his mom, Petty Officer 1st Class Dayna Schock, looks on April 26, 2012. The Coast Guard hosted more than 3... More
Month of the Military Child NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Greyson Eastman, 4, pretends to drive a Coast Guard fire truck at Coast Guard Training Center Cape May April 26, 2012. The Coast Guard hosted more than 30 military children here as part of Take... More
US COAST GUARD Operation Fireside
Lt. Cmdr. Aaron Miller, a chaplain aboard Training Center Cape May, pairs recruits with families along with the help of company commanders as part of Operation Fireside. Since 1981, Operation Fireside has place... More
US COAST GUARD Operation Fireside
Donna Croskey from Southern Shore Chapter of the American Red Cross the hands out certificates and recruit quotas to volunteers as part of Operation Fireside. Since 1981, Operation Fireside has placed thousands... More
Trees for Troops, US Coast Guard Photo
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Petty Offcer 2nd Margarito Gonzales and Seaman Quincy Vanvleck from the Coast Guard Cutter Finback homeported at Training Center Cape May carry off free Christmas trees as part of Trees for Tro... More
Trees for Troops, US Coast Guard Photo
CAPE MAY, N.J. - U.S. Coast Guard Petty Officer 2nd Class Kevin Aulph of Training Center Cape May, N.J., picks out a tree as part of the Trees for Troops program. Aulph is a basic training company commander and... More
US COAST GUARD Basic training NEW JERSEY
A Coast Guard company commander instructs new recruits after their arrival to Training Center Cape May. The new recruits require intense conditioning and increased attention in order to ensure military discipli... More
US COAST GUARD Seamanship training
A Coast Guard recruit presents a square knot for inspection during seamanship training aboard Coast Guard Training Center Cape May. The recruits must learn a variety of knots and seamanship skills including hel... More
Pugil stick training, US Coast Guard Photo
Coast Guard company commanders use pugil sticks to build self-confidence in recruits during physical altercations and prepare them for later self-defense training. (USCG Photo/CWO Donnie Brzuska)
US COAST GUARD Firefighting training
Coast Guard recruits man a fire hose during firefighting training aboard Coast Guard Training Center Cape May. The recruits are taught basic firefighting skills, so they can function as part of a shipboard fire... More
US COAST GUARD Basic training NEW JERSEY
A Coast Guard company commander instructs new recruits after their arrival to Training Center Cape May. The new recruits require intense conditioning and increased attention in order to ensure military discipli... More
US COAST GUARD Basic training NEW JERSEY
A Coast Guard recruit has his head shaved as part of his basic training aboard Training Center Cape May. All male recruits have their heads shaved in order to ensure uniformity and alignment with Coast Guard un... More
US COAST GUARD Range simulator NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - A Coast Guard recruit fires a .40-caliber handgun at the range simulator aboard Training Center Cape May. The recruits use modified handguns in order to familiarize themselves and qualify on th... More
Piece incentive training NEW JERSEY
Coast Guard recruits conduct a form of piece incentive training aboard Training Center Cape May called sniper position, which requires the recruits to sight in on their pieces for extended periods of time. The ... More
US COAST GUARD Basic training NEW JERSEY
A Coast Guard recruit prepares to jump from a platform in to the pool below and begin his swim assessment aboard Training Center Cape May. All recruits are required to pass their swim assessment prior to gradua... More
US COAST GUARD Firefighting training
Coast Guard recruits man a fire hose during firefighting training aboard Coast Guard Training Center Cape May. The recruits are taught basic firefighting skills, so they can function as part of a shipboard fire... More
Pugil stick training, US Coast Guard Photo
Petty Officer 1st Class Monica Speece, a company commander aboard Coast Guard Training Center Cape May, checks the safety gear of a recruit prior to entering the pugil stick pit. Coast Guard company commanders ... More
Pugil stick training, US Coast Guard Photo
Coast Guard recruits participate in a pugil stick bout. Company commanders use pugil sticks to build self-confidence in recruits during physical altercations and prepare them for later self-defense training. Co... More
US COAST GUARD Basic training NEW JERSEY
A Coast Guard recruit prepares to jump from a platform in to the pool below and begin his swim assessment aboard Training Center Cape May. All recruits are required to pass their swim assessment prior to gradua... More
US COAST GUARD Basic training NEW JERSEY
A Coast Guard company commander instructs new recruits after their arrival to Training Center Cape May. The new recruits require intense conditioning and increased attention in order to ensure military discipli... More
US COAST GUARD Basic training NEW JERSEY
A Coast Guard recruit has his head shaved as part of his basic training aboard Training Center Cape May. All male recruits have their heads shaved in order to ensure uniformity and alignment with Coast Guard un... More
Piece incentive training NEW JERSEY
Coast Guard recruits conduct piece incentive training aboard Training Center Cape May. The pieces are disabled M1 rifles that are used by the recruits to conduct manual of arms, and they used by company command... More
Coast Guard Marketplace meeting
Capt. Bob McKenna, commanding officer of Coast Guard Community Services Command, met with the crew of Coast Guard Training Center Cape May to discuss the new Coast Guard Marketplace scheduled to open aboard the... More
Coast Guard Cutter Dependable commanding officer
Cmdr. Lee Petty, commanding officer of Coast Guard Cutter Dependable, stands in front of his aging cutter. Petty relies on Pier 3 as a maintenance and repair platform for his ship, which is due for a major pier... More
Coast Guard Cutter Dependable NEW JERSEY
The Coast Guard Cutter Dependable is moored alongside Pier 3 across from a construction barge, which is driving 27 steel pilings to be used as mooring points for the Coast Guard Cutters Dependable and Vigorous.... More
Training Center Cape May's facility engineer
Cmdr. Corey Bonheim, Training Center Cape May's facility engineer, stands in front of one of 24 steel pilings at Pier 3, which will be the new mooring points for the Coast Guard Cutters Dependable and Vigorous.... More
US COAST GUARD Recruit training
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard Petty Officer 1st Class Trisha Ortiz, a company commander at Training Center Cape May, leads recruits through manual of arms training Jan. 5, 2012. Manual of arms is uniform, close ... More
US COAST GUARD Incentive training
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard recruits from Bravo Company 186 conduct incentive training in their Squad Bay late Jan. 5, 2012, Training Center Cape May. Company commanders use incentive training as a form of mot... More
US COAST GUARD Incentive training
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard Petty Officer 1st Class Tanya LaFrance, a company commander at Training Center Cape May, leads recruits from Bravo Company 186 through incentive training in their Squad Bay late Jan... More
US COAST GUARD Incentive training
CAPE MAY, N.J. - A Coast Guard recruit from Alpha Company 186 reads page 212, 'Good Order and Discipline,' from the Coast Guardsman's Manual during incentive training at Training Center Cape May Jan. 5, 2012. ... More
US COAST GUARD Incentive training
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard Chief Petty Officer Cory Wadley, a company commander at Training Center Cape May, has recruits from Alpha Company 186 reads page 212, 'Good Order and Discipline,' from the Coast Gua... More
US COAST GUARD Confidence course
Coast Guard recruits at Training Center Cape May complete the unit's confidence course Jan. 7, 2012, which is aimed at pushing the recruits outside of their comfort zone and instilling a since of confidence. He... More
US COAST GUARD Confidence course
Coast Guard recruits at Training Center Cape May complete the unit's confidence course Jan. 7, 2012, which is aimed at pushing the recruits outside of their comfort zone and instilling a since of confidence. He... More
Manual of arms training NEW JERSEY
Petty Officer 1st Class Joshua Garza, a company commander aboard Training Center Cape May, leads Delta Company through manual of arms training here Thursday, Jan. 26, 2012. The recruits learn manual of arms as ... More
Hurricane Sandy - TRACEN Cape May
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard recruits prepare to board buses to evacuate Training Center Cape May, the Coast Guard's enlisted basic training center, in response to Hurricane Sandy Oct. 28, 2012. More than 300 r... More
Hurricane Sandy - Training Center Cape May
JOINT BASE MCGUIRE-DIX-LAKEHURST, N.J. - Coast Guard recruits practice checking their pulse as part of a first aid and CPR class here Oct. 29, 2012. More than 300 recruits and staff evacuated Training Center Ca... More
Hurricane Sandy - Training Center Cape May
JOINT BASE MCGUIRE-DIX-LAKEHURST, N.J. - A Coast Guard recruit practices checking her pulse as part of a first aid and CPR class here Oct. 29, 2012. More than 300 recruits and staff evacuated Training Center Ca... More
Hurricane Sandy - Training Center Cape May
JOINT BASE MCGUIRE-DIX-LAKEHURST, N.J. - A Coast Guard company commander motivates recruits through incentive training as part of basic training here Oct. 29, 2102. More than 300 recruits and staff evacuated Tr... More
2011 State of the Training Center Address
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Capt. Bill Kelly, commanding officer of Coast Guard Training Center Cape May, delivers the 2011 State of the Training Center Address Tuesday, March 6, 2012, at 9 a.m. The State of the Training ... More
Memorial Day Recruit Graduation
WILDWOOD, N.J. - A Color Guard from Coast Guard Training Center Cape May presents the National Ensign during the graduation ceremony for Recruit Company Oscar 186 who graduated from Basic Training May 25, 2012,... More
One of the 'bloodiest days' NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Mr. Peter Fantacone, 86, of Mays Landing, N.J., recounts his experiences during the D-Day invasion at Training Center Cape May June 6, 2012. Fantacone was a U.S. Navy sailor in Coast Guard Flot... More
Station Cape May Change of Command
CAPE MAY, N.J. -- Capt. Kathleen Moore, the commander of Coast Guard Sector Delaware Bay, Lt. Scott Murphy, outgoing commanding officer, Coast Guard Station Cape May, and Lt. Scott Farr, Station Cape May's new ... More
Operation Fireside volunteers take in Coast Guard recruits for Christm...
Coast Guard recruits from Golf and Foxtrot Companies 189 in basic training at Coast Guard Training Center Cape May, N.J., pose with Shelia Brown, a host with Operation Fireside, at her home in North Wildwood, N... More
US COAST GUARD Down, up U.S. Coast Guard photograph
Petty Officer 1st Class Milton Casey, a company commander at Coast Guard Training Center Cape May, N.J., leads a recruit through pushups during basic training, Jan. 7, 2014. Training Center Cape May is the Coas... More
US COAST GUARD Culminating event
Two members of Coast Guard Recruit Company Xray 186 tend to a simulated victim as part of a mass casualty drill during the company's Culminating Event July 30, 2012. The Culminating Event is a practical applica... More
US COAST GUARD Culminating Event
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Two members of Coast Guard Recruit Company Xray 186 tend to a simulated victim as part of a mass casualty drill during the company's Culminating Event July 30, 2012. The Culminating Event is a ... More
US COAST GUARD Culminating Event
CAPE MAY, N.J. - members of Coast Guard Recruit Company Xray 186 tevacuate a victim of a simulated mass casualty drill during the company's Culminating Event July 30, 2012. The Culminating Event is a practical ... More
US COAST GUARD Culminating Event
CAPE MAY, N.J. - A recruit from Coast Guard Recruit Company Xray 186 gives a thumbs up to his shipmates signaling his life raft is secure during a ship-to-shore exercise, which is part of the recruits Culminati... More
US COAST GUARD Culminating Event
CAPE MAY, N.J. - A Coast Guard recruit from Company Xray 186 fights a simulated fire during the recruits' Culminating Event July 30, 2012. The Culminating Event is a practical application of the recruits' train... More
US COAST GUARD Culminating Event
CAPE MAY, N.J. - A member of Coast Guard Recruit Company Xray 186 prepares to receive a heaving line from his shipmates during a ship-to-shore exercise, which is part of the recruits Culminating Event, July 30,... More
US COAST GUARD Culminating event
A Coast Guard recruit from Company Xray 186 fights a simulated fire during the recruits' Culminating Event July 30, 2012. The Culminating Event is a practical application of the recruits' training in numerous g... More
US COAST GUARD Culminating Event
CAPE MAY, N.J. - A Coast Guard recruit from Company Whiskey 186 throws a heaving line to a shipmate during a ship-to-shore exercise, which is part of the recruits' Culminating Event, July 30, 2012. The Culminat... More
US COAST GUARD Incentive Training
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard Petty Officer 1st Class Edmund Lewis, a company commander at Training Center Cape May, motivates recruits carrying a life raft packed with sea bags while reciting the Coast Guard's ... More
US COAST GUARD Shipboard Firefighting
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard recruits from Company Zulu 186 man a fire hose during firefighting training aboard Training Center Cape May Aug. 1, 2012. The recruits must be familiar with basic shipboard firefigh... More
US COAST GUARD Incentive Training
CAPE MAY, N.J - A Coast Guard recruit at Training Center Cape May does pushups during incentive training July 31, 2012. Incentive training is not only a tool for correcting misconduct and negative behavior, but... More
US COAST GUARD Shipboard Firefighting
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard recruits from Company Zulu 186 man a fire hose during firefighting training aboard Training Center Cape May Aug. 1, 2012.Shipboard fires are a enduring threat to any mariner, so eve... More
US COAST GUARD Firefighting Training
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard recruits from Company Zulu 186 man a fire hose during firefighting training aboard Training Center Cape May Aug. 1, 2012.Shipboard fires are a enduring threat to any mariner, so eve... More
US COAST GUARD Shipboard Firefighting
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard recruits from Company Zulu 186 man a fire hose during firefighting training aboard Training Center Cape May Aug. 1, 2012.Shipboard fires are a enduring threat to any mariner, so eve... More
US COAST GUARD Sound Off! NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard recruits sound off during basic training at Training Center Cape May July 31, 2012. The recruits are instructed to sound off loudly in order to instill confidence in verbal commands... More
US COAST GUARD Incentive Training
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard Petty Officer 1st Class Edmund Lewis, a company commander at Training Center Cape May, motivates recruits during incentive training July 31, 2012. Incentive training is not only a t... More
US COAST GUARD Incentive Training
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard Petty Officer 1st Class Edmund Lewis, a company commander at Training Center Cape May, motivates recruits during incentive training July 31, 2012. Incentive training is not only a t... More
US COAST GUARD Shipboard Firefighting
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard recruits from Company Zulu 186 man a fire hose during firefighting training aboard Training Center Cape May Aug. 1, 2012.Shipboard fires are a enduring threat to any mariner, so eve... More
US COAST GUARD Incentive Training
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard Petty Officer 1st Class Edmund Lewis, a company commander at Training Center Cape May, motivates recruits carrying a life raft packed with sea bags while reciting the Coast Guard's ... More
US COAST GUARD Incentive Training
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard Petty Officer 2nd Class Nicholas Saporito, a company commander at Training Center Cape May, motivates a member of Recruit Company Bravo 187 during incentive training July 31, 2012. ... More
US COAST GUARD Incentive Training
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard recruits from Company Zulu 186 lift a shipboard towline over their heads while reciting the Coast Guard's Core Values of Honor, Respect and Devotion to Duty July 31, 2012. The Coast... More
US COAST GUARD Shipboard Firefighting
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard recruits from Company Zulu 186 man a fire hose during firefighting training aboard Training Center Cape May Aug. 1, 2012.Shipboard fires are a enduring threat to any mariner, so eve... More
US COAST GUARD Sound Off! NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - A Coast Guard recruit sounds off during basic training at Training Center Cape May July 31, 2012. The recruits are instructed to sound off loudly in order to instill confidence in verbal comman... More
US COAST GUARD Weapons Training
CAPE MAY, N.J. - A recruit with the Direct Entry Petty Officer Training Program, or DEPOT, conducts weapons training at Training Center Cape May Aug. 1, 2012. DEPOT is a training program that provides direct en... More
Coast Guard Recruit Precision Drill Team
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Members of the Coast Guard Recruit Precision Drill Team practice their rifle routine aboard Training Center Cape May July 31, 2012. The recruits are handpicked for the Recruit Precision Drill T... More
US COAST GUARD Incentive Training
CAPE MAY, N.J. - A recruit at Coast Guard Training Center Cape May struggles to carry a life raft containing six sea bags while reciting the Coast Guard's Core Values of Honor, Respect and Devotion to Duty duri... More
US COAST GUARD Shipboard Firefighting
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard recruits from Company Zulu 186 man a fire hose during firefighting training aboard Training Center Cape May Aug. 1, 2012.Shipboard fires are a enduring threat to any mariner, so eve... More
US COAST GUARD Incentive Training
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard Petty Officer 1st Class Edmund Lewis, a company commander at Training Center Cape May, motivates recruits during incentive training July 31, 2012. Incentive training is not only a t... More
US COAST GUARD Incentive Training
CAPE MAY, N.J. - A group of Coast Guard recruits aboard Training Center Cape May carry a life raft containing six sea bags while reciting the Coast Guard's Core Values of Honor, Respect and Devotion to Duty dur... More
US COAST GUARD Incentive Training
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard recruits from Company Zulu 186 lift a shipboard towline over their heads while reciting the Coast Guard's Core Values of Honor, Respect and Devotion to Duty July 31, 2012. The Coast... More
US COAST GUARD Sunset parade NEW JERSEY
CAPE MAY, N.J. - Coast Guard Recruit Company Bravo 187 march on to Training Center Cape May's Parade Field during a Sunset Parade Aug. 5, 2012. Sunset Parades are colorful displays of military customs and tradi... More