Marines, Sailors and civilians bow their heads as First
Marines, Sailors and civilians bow their heads as First Sgt. Neil Roselli, base first sergeant, delivers the invocation, kicking off the 75th, Diamond Anniversary celebration, and rededication of the colors, ab... More
Myrtle Hazard, electrical engineer, U.S. Coast Guard.
Myrtle Hazard, electrical engineer, U.S. Coast Guard. First woman to take the oath of enlistment in Coast Guard 1918, The twin Baker sister transferred to the Coast Guard from the Naval Coastal Defense Reserve ... More
Salute to the Women in the Military
Master Sergeant Tianna Tien, communications chief aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, is the guest speaker at the Barstow Women’s Club annual “Salute to Women in the Military” luncheon held at Los Domin... More
Base personnel and the Sorensen Family honor Capt.
Base personnel and the Sorensen Family honor Capt. M. A. Sorensen during the renaming of the Nebo Athletic Field in his name in September 1953.
Communicator of the Month. Marine Corps logistics base Barstow
Sergeant Robert Taylor, assistant radio chief, Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif.
Aerial view of Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow's
Aerial view of Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow's Yermo Annex and Raileway Operations.
Sgt. Justin Mears, a retail manager at Marine Corps
Sgt. Justin Mears, a retail manager at Marine Corps Logistics Battalion Barstow, Calif., competes in the military press during the battle skills challenge portion of the championship. Thirty two Marines from ac... More
MCPD aboard MCLB Barstow celebrates 10 years as a civilian force
Ten years ago, Marine Corps Police Department aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow transitioned from military police to a civilian force and ten of the employees hired on in that first wave, still work on... More
Calling all Marines: Digging into history at the Calico Early Man Site
Volunteers with Friends of Calico Early Man Site assist with searching for artifacts at the site, ten miles northeast of Calico Ghost Town, May 7. Sections of soil are sifted through screens of various sizes t... More
Sgt. Steven Goss, Cpl. Gilberto Navarrete and K-9 Wwrinkle
Sgt. Steven Goss, Cpl. Gilberto Navarrete and K-9 Wwrinkle accept the Red Cross Hero Award for their assistance during the December 2015 terrorist attack in San Bernardino during an award ceremony held at Angel... More
Military spouses learn massage techniques
Military spouses learn about pregnancy and child massage techniques with Jasmine Young, a certified massage therapist with Fort Irwin National Training Center, during a New Parent Support Program "Baby Bootcamp... More
Brian Hickox and David Pacileo, firefighters with Fire
Brian Hickox and David Pacileo, firefighters with Fire and Emergency Services, train in hazardous material recognition using the Hazmat ID360 during Hazardous Material Technician Refresher Course held aboard Ma... More
Brayden Dacier, 5 months, enjoys a restful nap after
Brayden Dacier, 5 months, enjoys a restful nap after a rigorous day at the Marine Corps Community Services All American BBQ held at the Oasis Swimming Pool and Water Park aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Bars... More
Reservist thanks supervisor for support
Sergeant Steven W. Downey, desk sergeant with the Marine Corps Police Department, presented his supervisor, Lt. Justin C. Witcher the Service Member Patriot Award during a ceremony held aboard Marine Corps Logi... More
A bull riding contestant is thrown from his ride as
A bull riding contestant is thrown from his ride as other cowboys cheer him on during the Barstow Rodeo Stampede held aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., 23 Sept.
Denim Day 2018 raises awareness of sexual assault prevention
Denim pockets, decorated by participants in "Reclaiming Denim-Denim Day Workshop" are displayed at Desert Sanctuary, Inc. - Haley House, during their annual open house in Barstow, Calif., Oct. 5, 2016. Denim Da... More
Ashley Ignatz takes the lead, with Jamie Teale and
Ashley Ignatz takes the lead, with Jamie Teale and Jennifer Wolef close behind, during the running portion of the modified Combat Fitness Test the wives participated in during Jane Wayne Day aboard Marine Corps... More
Michele Henderson, a Navy spouse, enjoys picking out
Michele Henderson, a Navy spouse, enjoys picking out dresses to try on during the Operation: My Girlfiend's Closet event, put on my Leslie Beberniss and her family's business, DRYFEK Inc. aboard Marine Corps Lo... More
Members of the community join military and civilian
Members of the community join military and civilian personnel in standing for the Star Spangled Banner performed by the USO Show Troupe aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., Nov. 12. The troupe pe... More
Elizabeth Braun, a military spouse, carefully measures
Elizabeth Braun, a military spouse, carefully measures ingredients for a recipe during the Healthy Cooking Class held aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., Nov. 30. The class was hosted by Shelle... More
Staff Sgt. Grand Lee, EKMS manager with Fleet Support
Staff Sgt. Grand Lee, EKMS manager with Fleet Support Division aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, along with his wife Jennifer and daughters Gabriella, 5-years-old and Giuliana, 4-months-old enjoy the ... More
Chloe Bledsoe, 10-years-old, enjoys a chat with Santa
Chloe Bledsoe, 10-years-old, enjoys a chat with Santa during the Army's A Company 2916th Aviation Battalion's annual Santa's Coming to Town event held aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., Dec. 7.... More
Military spouses enjoy a morning of exchanging cookies
Military spouses enjoy a morning of exchanging cookies and ornaments aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., Dec. 13. Left to right back row: Jamie Teale, Ashley Ignatz, Elizabeth Braun, Amanda Rose... More
Officer Patrick Guthaus with the Marine Corps Police
Officer Patrick Guthaus with the Marine Corps Police Department, takes aim down range at his target during the Patrol Rifle Training Course held aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., Jan. 17. Succ... More
Marines with 2nd Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion,
Marines with 2nd Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, II Marine Expeditionary Force out of Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune, worked with 1st Marine Logistics Group, 1st Supply Battalion, S... More
Marines from the 2nd Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion
Marines from the 2nd Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion from Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune perform equipment maintenance and inspections prior to transport back to Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center 29 ... More
Ashley Ignatz, Marine Corps Family Team Building trainer,
Ashley Ignatz, Marine Corps Family Team Building trainer, coaches military spouses during a cooperative salsa making class, as part of the LINKS for Spouses training held aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Bars... More
Arley Lessard, Qualified Recycling Program manager,
Arley Lessard, Qualified Recycling Program manager, Scott Figueroa, QRP assistant, and Jack Adamyk, QRP laborer, coordinate with Mike Belomoz from SWRFT to recycle scrap metal aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base... More
Physical Security Specialist Michael Reyes, Marine
Physical Security Specialist Michael Reyes, Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., Security and Emergency Services Department, looks over the unsecured bicycles, skateboards, and scooters left by the scho... More
Simulated spills and leaks are repaired by firefighters
Simulated spills and leaks are repaired by firefighters during hazardous materials training held aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., Feb. 15.
Firefighters and paramedics with Fire and Emergency
Firefighters and paramedics with Fire and Emergency Services don full protective suits to engage in hazardous materials training during an exercise aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., Feb. 15, 2017.
(Left) Lance corporals Jacob Soto and Nathan Gardner,
(Left) Lance corporals Jacob Soto and Nathan Gardner, both with Fleet Support Division, Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif.; and Cpl. Burke Braun, communications department, MCLBB; question 13-year-old ... More
PPB continually improving. Marine Corps logistics base Barstow
Angelina Rivera, branch head, Production Analysis Branch, explains CPI at a Light Armored Vehicle project site. The chart is a graphical representation for artisans working on the project to follow how the prod... More
Lance Corporals Teishone Busgith, package specialist
Lance Corporals Teishone Busgith, package specialist and Jonathan Miley, warehouse clerk, with Combat Logistics Battalion 453, double check the chains holding equipment on railcars as part of their training abo... More
The Marine Corps' Silent Drill Platoon begin their
The Marine Corps' Silent Drill Platoon begin their moving performance for guests aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., March 5. @USMC
Members of the Silent Drill Platoon toss 10 pound M-1
Members of the Silent Drill Platoon toss 10 pound M-1 Garand rifles to each other during their performance at the Semper Fit Gymnasium at McCarver Hall aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., March ... More
Ted Fisher points out the clear access pathway created
Ted Fisher points out the clear access pathway created by the Safety Office to allow easy entrance and exit from the door behind him, March 9. Prior to the establishment of the pathway, crates and equipment wou... More
Marines from Fleet Support Division return to their
Marines from Fleet Support Division return to their staging area after tire drill sessions as part of their combat readiness training held aboard the Yermo Annex on Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., ... More
Soldiers from the Army's 2916th Aviation Battalion
Soldiers from the Army's 2916th Aviation Battalion and 916th Sustainment and Support Brigades located at the National Training Center on Fort Irwin, and the Daggett Air Field, qualify on the pistol range aboard... More
Fire and Emergency Services personnel from Marine Corps
Fire and Emergency Services personnel from Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow work with the Army's 2916 Aviation Battaliopn to conduct a multi-agency "Blackhawk Down" simulation aboard the Yermo Annex of MCLB ... More
Eddie Batista, tractor operator, tows a Light Armored
Eddie Batista, tractor operator, tows a Light Armored Vehicle to an area to begin the disassembly process on the versatile vehicle April 4. Batista is one of 45 people in the Materials Handling section at Produ... More
Bryan H. Wood, assistant deputy commandant, Installations
Bryan H. Wood, assistant deputy commandant, Installations and Logistics, sounds the whistle while backing up the U.S. Army locomotive used to move trains around the rail operations yard on the Yermo Annex of Ma... More
Month of the Military Child celebrated aboard MCLB Barstow
Children enjoy a family related craft at the Children's Development Center aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., April 6. The staff assists the children with markers and stickers to make a represe... More
Harley, a service dog in training, is introduced to
Harley, a service dog in training, is introduced to civilians and Marines by his owner Lt. Col. Timothy Silkowski, director of Fleet Support Division, at the Easter Egg Hunt and Roll held aboard Marine Corps Lo... More
Chris Ware, supervisor, dynamometer section of the
Chris Ware, supervisor, dynamometer section of the motor shop, explains the purpose of "dyno" testing on engines and transmissions is to ensure they are operating within the manufacturer's specifications, April... More
Sergeant Jeffery Avery, a military police officer from
Sergeant Jeffery Avery, a military police officer from Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow engages multiple targets during the 5th Annual Law Enforcement Shooting Competition hosted by Barstow Police Department... More
Desert denizens of MCLB Barstow
Arthur Basulto, U.S. Park Ranger, Bureau of Land Management, Department of the Interior, displays a California King snake during the Kid Fest held at Semper Fit gymnasium aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Bars... More
(Left) Robert Cockrell, heavy equipment mechanic repairs
(Left) Robert Cockrell, heavy equipment mechanic repairs inspector, and Tim Craig, supervisor, Quality Control Department at Production Plant Barstow, check the work on a 16 cylinder Paxman engine used by the U... More
Run for the Wall. Marine Corps logistics base Barstow
During the annual Run for the Wall event Veterans of the Vietnam war and supporters ride their motorcycles through the front gate aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., May 178.
Fun summer events are lined up for military families
MCLB Barsow Marines test out the video gaming systems in the new Single Marine Program Recreation Center during its grand opening May 31. The recreation center also includes a pool table, kitchen, ping pong tab... More
David Vierheller, artillery repair specialist, stands
David Vierheller, artillery repair specialist, stands by the portion of the barrel of a M777 lift gun trainer, June 1, bearing the sign reminding users the gun is not operable and is only used for training heli... More
A student dashes to get into formation for some close
A student dashes to get into formation for some close order drill in front of their barracks as the Summit Leadership Academy High Desert aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., engages in a two-wee... More
Governor's Military Council visits MCLB Barstow
(Left) "Chip" Schwartz, plant manager, Production Plant Barstow, explains the mission of the Marine Depot Maintenance Command facility located aboard the Yermo Annex of Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Cali... More
Children enrolled in the School Age Care Summer Camp
Children enrolled in the School Age Care Summer Camp take a break in the beanbags after some energetic play during their daily activities aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., June 14.
Military Spouse Apprecation awards at MCLB Barstow
(Left) First Sergeant Neil Roselli, first sergeant, Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., and Col. Sekou Karega, commanding officer, MCLB Barstow, presented 17 military spouses with certificates of appre... More
One of Production Engineering's most recent equipment
One of Production Engineering's most recent equipment purchases was a metal shear currenly being installed and adjusted by Richard Pemintal, one of two Engineering Technicians. Engineering will also provide pre... More
(Left) Teen Miss Barstow Keirstyn Brogan and Miss Barstow
(Left) Teen Miss Barstow Keirstyn Brogan and Miss Barstow Jessi McKinnon join Cpl. Cristina Zamora in applause as Zamora is announced as the Noncommissioned Officer of the Quarter for Marine Corps Logistics Bas... More
Sergeant Blake Pemberton, motortransport mechanic with
Sergeant Blake Pemberton, motortransport mechanic with Fleet Support Division, Hospital Corpsman Third Class Valentin "Doc" Murillo, with Headquarters Company, and Bella Nies, housing management assistant, all ... More
She’s small but mighty good at reading. Three-year-old
She’s small but mighty good at reading. Three-year-old Emma Stevens solemnly displays the cookie she just decorated as part of the End of Summer Reading Program Ice Cream Finale celebration at McTureous Hall ab... More
Army's 1st Stryker BCT, 4th Infantry Div crosses MCLB Barstow
The Army's 1st Stryker Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division, out of Fort Carlson Colorado, loads Strykers onto railcars aboard the Yermo Annex of Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., July 17. The ... More
Smoothing the ride aboard MCLBB
Crews work to mill and overlay the parking lot in front of building 204, Public Affairs Office aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., July 19. One to two inches of asphalt are removed, tar is put d... More
Marines, contractors and civilians play a beanbag game
Marines, contractors and civilians play a beanbag game during the Fleet Support Division employee appreciation event held on the Yermo Annex aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif. July 27. The event... More
Firefighters recognized for lifesaving actions
Danny Strand, director, Security and Emergency Services, Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif.; Gregg Kunkel, chief, emergency medical services; Zachary Zamora, firefighter, MCLBB Fire Department; Eric Ke... More
Kevin Panowicz, tool and die maker machinist, Production
Kevin Panowicz, tool and die maker machinist, Production Plant Barstow, fits a part he is designing for a rifle mount bracket for a Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicle at the Marine Depot Maintenance... More
Marines from 4th Marine Logistics Group, Marine Forces
Marines from 4th Marine Logistics Group, Marine Forces Reserve, from reserve units all over the country, prepare, test and inpsect Kalmar RT240 heavy equipment, international shipping container transporters on ... More
Victor Bencomo, Information Technology specialist,
Victor Bencomo, Information Technology specialist, S-6 Communications department, demonstrates the new Microsoft Windows 10 operating system currently being installed on all computers on Marine Corps Logistics ... More
Firefighters with Fire and Emergency Services climb
Firefighters with Fire and Emergency Services climb aboard their new three domed railcar training simulator created by Advanced Entertainment Technologies, during a training exercise aboard Marine Corps Logisti... More
First Sergeant Neil Roselli's 5-year-old son, Mason
First Sergeant Neil Roselli's 5-year-old son, Mason Roselli, tumbles down the inflatable slide during the Marine Corps Rodeo kick off party hosted by Idle Spurs restaurant in Barstow, Calif., Sept. 7. The kick... More
Bronco riding. Marine Corps logistics base Barstow
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L.I.N.K.S. celebrates milestone at MCLBB
Lifestyle, Insight, Networking, Knowledge, and Skills, L..I.N.K.S., has opened in its new location at building 126 aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif. The L.I.N.K.S. program was founded to help M... More
Lifestyle, insight, networking, knowledge, skills,
Lifestyle, insight, networking, knowledge, skills, LINKS for short, is celebrating its twentieth anniversary Marine Corps-wide. Aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., LINKS has been in place for mo... More
The Walking Color Guard from Marine Corps Logistics
The Walking Color Guard from Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., dips the Marine Corps flag below the American flag during the Pledge of Allegiance led by Teresa Rochester, Public Information Officer, ... More
Marine Corps dress blues and other uniform items can
Marine Corps dress blues and other uniform items can be purchased at the Navy Marine Corps Relief Society Thrift Store for a fraction of their original cost. The Thrift Store located at the south end of warehou... More
Meet The Running Man of MCLB Barstow
Abel Chavez, aka “The Running Man,” runs for fun and health during his lunch hour around the Yermo Annex of Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif. Chavez works as a heavy mobile equipment mechanic at Produ... More
NMCRS Thrift Store reopens. Marine Corps logistics base Barstow
The Navy-Marine Corps Relief Society Thrift Store has reopened aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif. Located at the south end of Warehouse 3, the Thrift Store uses the proceeds to benefit Marine an... More
A word of thanks to MCLBB firefighters
Firefighter Robert Moir, Captain John Torgeson, Lt. Nathan Beber and Firefighter Scotty Torres, Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., Fire Department take a brief pause from firefighting duties at the Na... More
Sparky and Michelle Bledsoe, fire prevention officers
Sparky and Michelle Bledsoe, fire prevention officers with Fire and Emergency Services, lead children from the Child Development Center, through the tunnel under Joseph L. Boll Avenue, to the fire station, as p... More
Children at the School Age Care facility enjoy playing
Children at the School Age Care facility enjoy playing with Sparky, fire prevention mascot, during a Fire Safety Week event held aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., Oct. 11. Throughout the week,... More
Mildred Muhammad, former wife of the "DC Sniper", John
Mildred Muhammad, former wife of the "DC Sniper", John Muhammad, and a survivor of domestic violence, speaks to a room full of Marines, Sailors and civilias aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., O... More
A convoy of vintage military vehicles driven by members
A convoy of vintage military vehicles driven by members of the Military Vehicle Preservation Association arrives at Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., Oct. 11. The convoy is en route from Chicago to S... More
Master Sergeant Benjamin Burton, supply chief, tries
Master Sergeant Benjamin Burton, supply chief, tries on a pair of glasses belonging to Col. Sekou Karega, base commander, during Burton's retirement ceremony held at Route 66 Cafe aboard Marine Corps Logistics ... More
Base personnel enjoy a good old fashioned grill out
Base personnel enjoy a good old fashioned grill out for lunch at the Fire Safety BBQ held at the fire station aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Oct. 12. The event raises awareness of fire safety proto... More
(Left) Scott Figueroa, a veteran and employee of
(Left) Scott Figueroa, a veteran and employee of Installation and Logistics, MCLBB, is joined by Mary Petit, Incredible Edible Community Garden, as they plant another tree honoring veterans on Main Street in th... More
Active Shooter: How to respond. Marine Corps logistics base Barstow
U.S. Department of Homeland Security at https://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/active_shooter_booklet.pdf has a large amount of information and recommendations on how to respond to an active shooter incident.
Members of the Military Vehicle Preservation Association,
Members of the Military Vehicle Preservation Association, listen as Betty Jackson briefs them prior to a guided tour of Production Plant Barstow, Marine Depot Maintenance Command aboard the Yermo Annex of Marin... More
Colonel Sekou Karega, commanding officer, welcomes
Colonel Sekou Karega, commanding officer, welcomes military spouses and girlfriends as they begin Jane Wayne Day at Sorenson Field aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., Oct. 13. The event offers t... More
Proud Navy veteran residents of the Veterans Home of
Proud Navy veteran residents of the Veterans Home of California Barstow, gathered to celebrate the 242nd birthday of the strongest naval force on Earth, Oct. 13. As with the other U.S. military branches, the ol... More
Employees and their families from Production Plant
Employees and their families from Production Plant Barstow, Marine Depot Maintenance Command, check out and show off classic cars during the car show portion of their employee recognition event held on the Yerm... More
Cast members with Domestic Violence the Musical make
Cast members with Domestic Violence the Musical make a dramatic statement by placing the DV victim in a body bag during their presentation aboard Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., Oct. 19. The musica... More
Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., Fire and
Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., Fire and Emergency Services
Marines from MCLB Barstow, Headquarters Company, stride
Marines from MCLB Barstow, Headquarters Company, stride along in unison, during the annual Mardi Gras Parade, Oct. 28.
Colonel Sekou S. Karega, commanding officer, MCLB Barstow,
Colonel Sekou S. Karega, commanding officer, MCLB Barstow, takes a swing on the 18th hole of the Marine Memorial Golf Course during the MCLB Golf Invitational Tournament aboard MCLB Barstow, Nov. 2.
Colonel Sekou Karega, commander, Marine Corps Logistics
Colonel Sekou Karega, commander, Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., cuts the traditional birthday cake during a ceremony on the Parade Deck Nov. 8 commemorating the 242nd anniversary of the founding o... More
Mounted Color Guard at Death Valley '49ers Encampment
The Marine Corps Mounted Color Guard trots the final mile during the annual 49ers Encampment event, Nov. 10, reenacting the wagon train coming off a 100-mile trip across the desert from Wades Monument at du-mou... More
Meredith J. “Sunny” Eberhart, waves hello to a Marine
Meredith J. “Sunny” Eberhart, waves hello to a Marine Corps police officer as he walks through the back gate of Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., the morning of Nov. 15. Eberhart began walking the en... More
Marine Reservist assigned to Fleet Support Division,
Marine Reservist assigned to Fleet Support Division, are all smiles while displaying the championship trophy the team won after beating the MCLB Barstow Marines during the Turkey Bowl held aboard Marine Corps L... More
Staff Sgt. Nicholaus Hensley, operations chief, explaines
Staff Sgt. Nicholaus Hensley, operations chief, explaines range operations and functionality to members of the Defense Acquisition University as part of their tour of Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., Nov. 30.
Chris Miller greets a Marine Corps police officer as
Chris Miller greets a Marine Corps police officer as he enters the rear gate of Marine Corps Logistics Base Barstow, Calif., the morning of Dec. 5. Miller began his Chris Cross the Nation run at Ellis Island, N... More
Base personnel are served a delicious meal during the
Base personnel are served a delicious meal during the annual Marine Corps Logistics Base Holiday Party at the Maj. Gen. James L. Day Conference Center Dec. 6
Military personnel and their families had the opportunity
Military personnel and their families had the opportunity to select from myriad Christmas decorations and toys donated by High Desert Marines, during the Trees for Troops event held aboard Marine Corps Logistic... More